are doing without job search agencies: 10% (like Winners Apparel, CIBC). For small companies: 60% without job search agencies. The same for turn-key software installers/solution providers. I would not say that there is an acute shortage of specialists in any field now (under developed capitalism supply swiftly comes to equilibrium to demand). (This remark received from Robert Must. Thank you, Robert, you share with your experience like usual): This is very correct. While IT industry may provide more extensive opportunities due to the fact that this immature industry yet. All industries were in this situation some time in the past. There is no general deficit of people. There is deficit of people with a certain set of skills and many of those go to the US because falling loonie cut their real salaries. $65k salary is considered good both in the US and Canada. But dollar is different. If not this outflow probably would be no so much place for those 900 IT people who arrive to Canada only from one country every year. Price of education: all commercial courses have $300/week. (Seneca $250/course), full-blown University course (4 years): $40,000. You may apply for a government loan after a year of living as a PR (pay out start half a year after gradiation, interest about 5%). Length of average private computer courses = 1 year (from 3 months to 2 years). Quality of education: from C to D (in Russian 3 with minus). It is unrealistic to find knowledgeable teachers that also know how to teach (the word "methodology" is not known here). I calculate that average time for a person (without computer background) of 25 years old spent on computer/Software development related studies plus job search is 1 year, if your are 35 it's 1.5 years, if your are 40 - two years (if you study/look for job 8 hours a day). For a person with computer background (with language not needed on the market now, like Fortran or Pascal or PDP11 Assembler development) and not too bad English - it is half a year. In Toronto and Kitchener/Waterloo the emphasis is more on mainframes, in Mississauga/Brampton - client/server, C++. In Ottawa- client/server. I got a feeling that it is harder to find a job in Ottawa. Necessary requirements in all cases: professionally written resume (the whole science exists about it) and written/oral references (at least 3, preferably local and you must be able to get by (communicate) in English in "real-time" (50 words/minute) and be understood- nobody cares what accent you have. Ability to type (in English) 30-40 words per minute is helpful. Average number of software developers (with Canadian PR status), returning back to Russia - about 7%, for non-programmers this figure is 15-20% (neither in Canada, nor in Russia there is no corresponding statistics). Official Canadian data: PRs: families arriving to Toronto: 900/year from Russia, 1000 from Israel. My feeling is that about half of them (from former Soviet Union) are programmers (at least one in the family), with age range for a main applicant from 25 to 40 years. Percent of (families) 'sitting' on welfare after 1 year of arrival: my feeling: 35%, in three years: 10% (for a programmers 2-3 times less). Percent of divorces among newcoming families in the first three years: about 25%. Hopefully it will help, Alexei Akimov P.S. 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